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Author Topic: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
Duroon
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: July 21, 2010, 21:10

Woo-hoo! My mini's just arrived in the mail today!. I am very impressed with the sculpting of four out of the seven. Condor, Mouser, Gauntlet, and Mirage. I was checking them out when I noticed that they are all sculpted by Sandra Garrity (she always puts her name on the integral base even to this day). Sandra has been an extremely prolific mini sculptor over the years who is still quite active producing mini's for Reaper today. See I am so much of a mini painting geek I examine the pedigree of the miniatures lol! Stormlord, Mocker w/Marionette, and Hornet are very nice sculpts as well but have no sculptors sig on them, the integral bases aren't quite as nice as one of the Garrity sculpts and will need a little sanding to get them to sit flat, but that is often the case with a lot of mini's and not a big deal. The flash lines aren't too bad, they should clean up easily enough. I may re-base the mini's for a more dynamic appearance, I will have to see what kind of time I have and what bases I can come up with first. Hornet is going to take some work in the wing department to try and get some detail there, I will take him to my freehand class at GenCon and see what the instructor recommends. I will probably try and get Gauntlet and Mouser done first as they both look like they should be pretty straightforward.

Quick question for Jeff and Jack, what color is mouser's outfit supposed to be? I know his fur should be green at least.

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Just noticed that the other sculpts (non-Garrity ones) are also slighty smaller in scale. I think they are true 25mm scale while the Garrity ones are likely 28mm scale. Not a huge deal but it does mean that Hornet, Stormlord, and Mocker only stand shoulder tall to the rest of the bunch. It does argue (to me anyhow) that I should indeed re-base those three at the least which would have the added benefit of disguising the height difference.

Jeff
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: July 21, 2010, 21:44

Duroon: the Stormlord, Mocker w/Marionette, and Hornet are from the original line, sculpted by Bob Charette. That's also the reason for the scale difference, they were macde back when 25mm was the norm.

-Jeff

Duroon
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: July 21, 2010, 21:47

I figured as much, the copyright dates on the bottom of them are nearly a decade older than the Garrity ones. It is nice to know the name of the sculptor too, thanks Jeff!

I did a quick search on Bob and he has an impressive line of work to his name! Not only sculpting but he did a lot of writing on some very classic games! Shadowrun, Bushido, Aftermath, Daredevils!

StefanJ
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: July 21, 2010, 22:43

Flashback: I remember seeing the prototypes of Charrette's minis, and the molds made from them. The latter were just blocks of brownish material.

Duroon
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 2, 2010, 12:12

I have seen Manta Man with two different color schemes now. In the Crisis at Crusader Central adventure Manta Man's counter shows him to be blue and gray colored. Elsewhere I have seen him colored with a brown and tan scheme. Which is correct?

As for Mouser, I need to know what color his clothes should be, I do know his coat is green at least.

Duroon
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 2, 2010, 18:03

And now I have seen a third color scheme for him on the comic book cover! This time Yellow and Gray.

Jeff
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 2, 2010, 18:29

The comic book color scheme for Manta-Man is the definitive one.

Mouser's suit can really be any color, but he usually wears deep red.

-Jeff

Majestic
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 2, 2010, 18:31

Quote from Jeff on August 2, 2010, 18:29
The comic book color scheme for Manta-Man is the definitive one.

-Jeff

Good, cause that's the one I went with for our campaign. I made a new marker for him with the new color scheme (based on the comic). I've heard people gripe about the colors, but I kind of like it. I imagine that - like Iron Man used to - he could always use a "stealth" version of his suit (with the blue and gray) like we originally saw in CCC. 8-)

V&V GM and player since 1982 (my current campaign is 22 years old); also run West End Games d6 Star Wars monthly, as well as the occasional The One Ring and Marvel Heroic Roleplaying game

Duroon
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 2, 2010, 18:42

Quote from Jeff on August 2, 2010, 18:29
The comic book color scheme for Manta-Man is the definitive one.

Mouser's suit can really be any color, but he usually wears deep red.

-Jeff

Sweet! Thanks Jeff, I was beginning to worry about Mouser as I am taking that mini along to GenCon and might get the opportunity to get some painting done on it. Manta-Man is likely to be in my next group of mini purchases.

Jeff
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Post Re: V&V/LL Miniatures and background info
on: August 3, 2010, 09:53

Quote from Majestic on August 2, 2010, 18:31
I imagine that - like Iron Man used to - he could always use a "stealth" version of his suit (with the blue and gray) like we originally saw in CCC. 8-)

Certainly!

-Jeff

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